{"id":309,"date":"2020-11-06T12:30:00","date_gmt":"2020-11-06T11:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spoleksalamoun.com\/?p=309"},"modified":"2020-11-10T13:03:29","modified_gmt":"2020-11-10T12:03:29","slug":"rozhovor-s-judr-renatou-veseckou-na-tema-ods-petra-kramneho","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spoleksalamoun.com\/en\/2020\/11\/06\/rozhovor-s-judr-renatou-veseckou-na-tema-ods-petra-kramneho\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor s JUDr. Renatou Veseckou na t\u00e9ma ods. Petra Kramn\u00e9ho"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;JUDr. Renata Veseck\u00e1 valnou v\u011bt\u0161inu kari\u00e9ry byla st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u00ed a letech 2005-2011 byla Nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u00ed. Od roku 2011 je advok\u00e1tkou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pro spolek \u0160alamoun je JUDr. Renata Veseck\u00e1, nepochybn\u011b za svou bohatou profesn\u00ed kari\u00e9ru st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u011b, v\u0161ech stup\u0148\u016f, velkou autoritou.V\u00e1\u017een\u00e1 pan\u00ed doktorko,<br>dovolte mi pak obecn\u00fdch dotaz\u016f v souvislosti s trestn\u00ed v\u011bci ods.Petra Kramn\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/spoleksalamoun.cz\/spoleksalamoun.com\/miranda2\/export\/sitesavcr\/spolek\/sys\/galerie-obrazky\/vesecka2.jpg\" alt=\"renata-vesecka-foto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>1. Zm\u011bnil se n\u011bjak v\u00e1\u0161 pohled na fungov\u00e1n\u00ed justice pot\u00e9, co jste p\u0159e\u0161la z pozice st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u011b do pozice obh\u00e1jkyn\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Zm\u011bnil, proto\u017ee m\u00e1m daleko \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed mo\u017enost se p\u0159\u00edmo setkat s&nbsp;prac\u00ed a chov\u00e1n\u00edm jak policist\u016f, tak st\u00e1tn\u00edch z\u00e1stupc\u016f v&nbsp;konkr\u00e9tn\u00edch kauz\u00e1ch. Na to se je\u0161t\u011b prohloubil m\u016fj n\u00e1zor, \u017ee st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupci a soudci by m\u011bli m\u00edt praxi i v&nbsp;odli\u0161n\u00fdch \u201e justi\u010dn\u00edch\u201c povol\u00e1n\u00edch, nap\u0159. v&nbsp;advokacii, a mezi t\u011bmito profesemi by m\u011bla b\u00fdt prostupnost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2.&nbsp;<strong>Byl v\u00e1\u0161 pohled na trestn\u00ed \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed deformov\u00e1n Va\u0161\u00edm dlouhodob\u00fdm postaven\u00edm st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u011b? Je rozd\u00edln\u00fd pohled na trestn\u00ed \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed z pozice advok\u00e1tky oproti pohledu st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u011b? Jak hodnot\u00edte tzv. z druh\u00e9ho b\u0159ehu pr\u00e1ci ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch \u017ealobc\u016f?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u016fj pohled mysl\u00edm nebyl a ani nen\u00ed deformov\u00e1n, sp\u00ed\u0161e se zm\u011bnilo naz\u00edr\u00e1n\u00ed na trestn\u00ed pr\u00e1vo a jeho aplikaci. Do vedouc\u00edch pozic na st\u00e1tn\u00edm zastupitelstv\u00ed se dostali lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed, alespo\u0148 jak se mi to jev\u00ed, maj\u00ed pot\u0159ebu uk\u00e1zat za ka\u017edou cenu, \u017ee je t\u0159eba prov\u00e9st p\u0159es trestn\u00ed \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed v\u0161e, co neodpov\u00edd\u00e1 standardu. Bez ohledu na re\u00e1ln\u00fd v\u00fdsledek, bez ohledu na punti\u010dk\u00e1\u0159sky dodr\u017een\u00fd z\u00e1kon. N\u011bkdy se zd\u00e1, \u017ee vznik\u00e1 st\u00e1t ve st\u00e1t\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3.&nbsp;<strong>I kdy\u017e nep\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1m, \u017ee v\u00edte o trestn\u00ed v\u011bci pana Kramn\u00e9ho v\u00edce, ne\u017e referovala m\u00e9dia, jak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je z Va\u0161eho hlediska ohled\u00e1n\u00ed m\u00edsta \u010dinu, kde m\u011blo doj\u00edt ke sp\u00e1ch\u00e1n\u00ed dvojn\u00e1sobn\u00e9 vra\u017edy elektrick\u00fdm proudem?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ohled\u00e1n\u00ed m\u00edsta \u010dinu je veled\u016fle\u017eit\u00fd \u00fakon trestn\u00edho \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed p\u0159i jak\u00e9koli pr\u00e1vn\u00ed kvalifikaci, zvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 pak vra\u017edy samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, proto\u017ee tento \u00fakon v\u017edy sk\u00fdt\u00e1 velkou \u010d\u00e1st d\u016fkaz\u016f d\u00e1le u\u017eit\u00fdch v&nbsp;r\u00e1mci trestn\u00edho \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>4.&nbsp;<strong>Jak pohl\u00ed\u017e\u00edte na stav, kdy bylo sice rozsudky rozhodnuto, \u017ee k \u010dinu do\u0161lo, p\u0159esto, \u017ee nebyl prok\u00e1z\u00e1n zp\u016fsob, jak byl \u010din sp\u00e1ch\u00e1n &#8211; v nezn\u00e1mou dobu, nezn\u00e1m\u00fdm mechanismem<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jestli\u017ee nen\u00ed zn\u00e1m mechanismus, pak nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt ani \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b posouzeno zavin\u011bn\u00ed jako\u017eto podstatn\u00e1 sou\u010d\u00e1st jedn\u00e1n\u00ed pachatele. T\u011b\u017eko si lze p\u0159edstavit objektivn\u00ed rozsudek za p\u0159edpokladu dodr\u017een\u00ed v\u0161ech z\u00e1kladn\u00edch z\u00e1sad, pokud \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd z&nbsp;d\u016fkaz\u016f neobjasn\u00ed zp\u016fsob, jak byl n\u00e1sledek sp\u00e1ch\u00e1n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>5.&nbsp;<strong>P\u0159i ve\u0159ejn\u00fdm \u017ealobcem stanoven\u00fdm mechanismem usmrcen\u00ed dvou osob v hotelov\u00e9m pokoji jednopolov\u011b \u010di dvoupolov\u011b , kam nem\u011bla \u010desk\u00e1 policie p\u0159\u00edstup, bylo podle V\u00e1s na m\u00edst\u011b p\u0159istoupit k vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00edmu pokusu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00ed pokus m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt proveden tehdy, pokud zn\u00e1me v\u0161echny rozhodn\u00e9 skute\u010dnosti tak, abychom byli schopni relevantn\u00edho ov\u011b\u0159en\u00ed podm\u00ednek n\u011bjak\u00e9ho z\u00e1v\u011bru. Pak lze se z\u00e1v\u011bry znaleck\u00e9ho posudku i d\u00e1le pracovat jako s&nbsp;d\u016fkazem. Jinak m\u016f\u017ee slou\u017eit toliko ke stanoven\u00ed a event. ov\u011b\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00edch verz\u00ed s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee je potvrzeno, \u017ee d\u011bj se tak mohl st\u00e1t, nikoliv \u017ee se tak stal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>6.&nbsp;<strong>Kolikr\u00e1t jste ve Va\u0161\u00ed kari\u00e9\u0159e dozorovala p\u0159\u00edpad usmrcen\u00ed man\u017eelky a nezletil\u00e9 dcery ? A kolikr\u00e1t \u00famysln\u00e9 smrcen\u00ed elektrick\u00fdm proudem? Jak\u00fd je V\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor na hypot\u00e9zu o roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9 sebevra\u017ed\u011b? Setkala jste se s t\u00edm n\u011bkdy?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nikdy jsem takov\u00fd p\u0159\u00edpad nedozorovala. Nej\u010dast\u011bj\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpady rodinn\u00fdch neshod a probl\u00e9m\u016f b\u00fdvaj\u00ed vra\u017edy (jejich pokusy) a sebevra\u017edy. Jist\u011b lze i pracovat s&nbsp;verz\u00ed roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9 sebevra\u017edy, zpravidla v\u0161ak nikoliv ve vztahu rodi\u010d a mal\u00e9 d\u011bti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>7.&nbsp;<strong>Pod\u011blte se s n\u00e1mi o sv\u016fj n\u00e1zor na jak se d\u00edv\u00e1te na to, \u017ee \u010desk\u00fd policejn\u00ed org\u00e1n nebyl na m\u00edst\u011b \u010dinu, stejn\u011b jako znalec z oboru elektro, a p\u0159esto vyhotovil znaleck\u00fd posudek, ani\u017e si prov\u011b\u0159il parametry elektros\u00edt\u011b v Egyptsk\u00e9m hotelu? Jak vn\u00edm\u00e1te z\u00e1sadu rovnosti stran v soudn\u00ed s\u00edni? Jsou podle V\u00e1s trestn\u00ed procesy skute\u010dn\u011b fair?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Velmi t\u011b\u017eko se odpov\u00edd\u00e1 bez znalosti v\u011bci. V&nbsp;trestn\u00edm procesu a speci\u00e1ln\u011b v&nbsp;odsuzuj\u00edc\u00edm rozsudku by v\u0161ak nikdy nem\u011blo zazn\u00edt, \u017ee sice p\u0159esn\u011b nev\u00edme, jak do\u0161lo k&nbsp;n\u00e1sledku, av\u0161ak s&nbsp;nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed pravd\u011bpodobnost\u00ed takto&#8230;.. Za z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 ov\u0161em pova\u017euji tak\u00e9 spekulace, kter\u00e9 poukazuj\u00ed na \u00fadajnou manipulaci se sn\u00edmky vzork\u016f tk\u00e1n\u00ed srdc\u00ed zem\u0159el\u00fdch \u017een. Takov\u00fd d\u016fkaz m\u016f\u017ee rovn\u011b\u017e kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fd pro ur\u010den\u00ed nejen zp\u016fsobu, ale tak\u00e9 doby smrti. Tam, kde se rozhoduje o letech \u017eivota, je t\u0159eba absolutn\u011b ct\u00edt z\u00e1kon. V&nbsp;dob\u011b m\u00e9ho studia platilo, \u017ee deset vinn\u00fdch na svobod\u011b je daleko hor\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e jeden nevinn\u011b odsouzen\u00fd. Dnes se mi zd\u00e1, \u017ee je trend zcela opa\u010dn\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>8.Jak vn\u00edm\u00e1te nov\u00fd trend , a to st\u00edh\u00e1n\u00ed soudn\u00edch znalc\u016f za vypracovan\u00e9 posudky, jejich\u017e z\u00e1v\u011bry nezapadaj\u00ed do obrazu ob\u017ealoby?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pravdou je, \u017ee kvalita posudk\u016f se velice r\u016fzn\u00ed. Trestn\u00fd \u010din ohledn\u011b nepravdiv\u00e9ho znaleck\u00e9ho posudku je v&nbsp;trestn\u00edm z\u00e1kon\u00edku ji\u017e od 60. let. Je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 v\u017edy posuzovat ot\u00e1zku zavin\u011bn\u00ed (\u00famysl vs. nedbalost).&nbsp;N\u011bkdy prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed st\u00e1tn\u00edch z\u00e1stupc\u016f ohledn\u011b postihu znalc\u016f v&nbsp;konkr\u00e9tn\u00edch kauz\u00e1ch p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 odvetn\u00e9 a zastra\u0161ovac\u00ed akce. Je to nastolen\u00fd trend, kter\u00fd se mo\u017en\u00e1 leckomu l\u00edb\u00ed, av\u0161ak pouze do t\u00e9 doby, ne\u017e se za\u010dne t\u00fdkat jeho samotn\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>9. Je podle Va\u0161eho n\u00e1zoru etick\u00e9, aby dozorov\u00fd st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupce poskytoval pr\u00e1vn\u00ed rady p\u0159ednostovi \u00fastavu soudn\u00edho l\u00e9ka\u0159stv\u00ed k tomu, zda lze povolit znalc\u016fm p\u0159ibran\u00fdm obhajobou nov\u00e9 zkoum\u00e1n\u00ed nekroptick\u00e9ho materi\u00e1lu, kdy souhlas ji\u017e byl d\u00e1n soudem? Nutno \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee dozorov\u00fd st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupce skute\u010dn\u011b pr\u00e1vn\u00ed poskytl a odpov\u011b\u010f byla seps\u00e1na na hlavi\u010dkov\u00e9m pap\u00edru Krajsk\u00e9ho st\u00e1tn\u00edho zastupitelstv\u00ed. Jedn\u00e1 se o k\u00e1rn\u00e9 provin\u011bn\u00ed, zneu\u017eit\u00ed pravomoci \u010di pouh\u00e9 vysloven\u00ed soukrom\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Zcela jist\u011b se nejedn\u00e1 o soukrom\u00fd n\u00e1zor, ani o jeho pouh\u00e9 vysloven\u00ed. Ingeruje se t\u00edmto do postupu soudu. O jak z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 si nedovol\u00edm bez podrobn\u00fdch informac\u00ed hodnotit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>10.V posuzovan\u00e9 v\u011bci Petra Kramn\u00e9ho prob\u011bhla pitva na \u00fazem\u00ed Egypta, na \u00fazem\u00ed \u010cR repitva a bylo vypracov\u00e1no mno\u017estv\u00ed soudn\u011bl\u00e9ka\u0159sk\u00fdch posudk\u016f , kte\u0159\u00ed byly v\u0161ichni jako znalci vyslechnuti, vyjma egyptsk\u00e9ho patologa, a\u010dkoliv obh\u00e1jkyn\u011b opakovan\u011b jeho v\u00fdslech navrhovala. Je podle V\u00e1s takov\u00fd postup obecn\u00fdch soud\u016f zp\u016fsobil\u00fd zas\u00e1hnout do pr\u00e1va na obhajobu a spravedliv\u00fd proces?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rozhodn\u011b je tento znalec d\u016fle\u017eitou osobou a posouzen\u00ed d\u016fvod\u016f jeho nevyslechut\u00ed jist\u011b se spravedliv\u00fdm procesem souvis\u00ed.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;JUDr. Renata Veseck\u00e1 valnou v\u011bt\u0161inu kari\u00e9ry byla st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u00ed a letech 2005-2011 byla Nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupkyn\u00ed. 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